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sarahwannabe
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Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 24 2011, 6:34 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 6:34 PM EST
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/784740/10_ways_to_save_the_terminator_franchise.html

#8... definitely Do you find this valuable?    
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Gusar
Gusar
1. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 24 2011, 7:14 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 7:14 PM EST
Sadly #8 won't happen because of licensing.

The one I agree most with is #9. That's the core of T1 and T2 for me. The human element.

Also, #4. This is a war we're talking about here. People die in the most gruesome ways. Toning it down is just blah. Do you find this valuable?    
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2. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 24 2011, 7:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 7:24 PM EST
We already know that #8 has copyright problems :P
The spin-off should remain a spin-off OR directly generate a continuation (= WB makes T5 after TSCC and IGNORING T4 and 99% of T3).
To use only some parts of TSCC's story is negative for 3 reasons and 3 kinds of people:
1. For the producers, because they will have to pay WB for the rights;
2. for us and the original TSCC story, because we will only have a new story, not THE continuation;
3. for those who haven't viewed the show, because they will not understand the new movie.

We've already discussed this: TSCC's story must be used at all or ignored at all (and used someway else to make a DVD just for us). TSCC is going in syndication on SyFy now, if that will work it's possible than someone could think to do T5 after TSCC, but the idea to use just something from TSCC doesn't appear happy.
Sure, it's also possible, using the right details, to make a movie that can be understood by everyone but that will make them curious about the show, this was very good because at that point many Terminaytor's fans that haven't will view the show, and the writers could write T6 after TSCC, and if at WB they'll understand this, they could cooperate to the plot of T5 to then make T6 (that was economically very good for WB). Do you find this valuable?    
t5000
t5000
3. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 24 2011, 10:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 10:39 PM EST
here are the 10 ways
1. Hire a serious director with a real name.
2. New characters.
3. Start with a story that deserves to be told.
4. Make it scary, sweary and violent.[no pg-13]
5. Get the budget, then give back three quarters of it.
6. Tell Arnold you like him very much, but he is just too old to be a Terminator.
7. Cast it with proper actors.
8. Don't completely ignore The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
9. Give it a proper human element.
10. No 'comedy', please.
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I would add
11. has to have a terminator villain better or good as arnold in T-1 and patrick as T-1000 in T-2
Lokens T failed, and there was no major T villain in T-4.
12. just a idea , but why not have linda play sarah right before the JD , with her grown up john, and let us see JD and what happens right after.
and you could have one new T after them , or 3 T's of different types
and t-800, a T-1000, and something new but not a swiss army knife like loken.
Linda would add a lot to the movie and her age would fit if john was grown up. Do you find this valuable?    
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4. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 25 2011, 11:02 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 25 2011, 11:02 AM EST
"11. Lokens T failed, and there was no major T villain in T-4.
12. just a idea , but why not have linda play sarah right before the JD , with her grown up john, and let us see JD and what happens right after.
and you could have one new T after them , or 3 T's of different types
and t-800, a T-1000, and something new but not a swiss army knife like loken.
Linda would add a lot to the movie and her age would fit if john was grown up."
11. Løken mainly failed (IMO) because TX appeared in many way inferior to the previous T-1000: yes, she had many added features, but was also less stealth than T-1000.
Also, some capabilities (i.e. to fight against other machines) resulted eventually useful, but hypothetically hadn't to be if the T-850 hadn't jumped back...

12. The idea is good, but, for what I know, Linda stated many years ago that she had never more played Sarah Connor, because they were offering her only similar characters to play... but that was many years ago Do you find this valuable?    
t5000
t5000
5. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 25 2011, 11:52 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 25 2011, 11:52 AM EST
linda turned down T-3 because she did not lke the story or what they wrote for sarah.
she did a voice over for T-4
she might have made appearance on tscc if she had been asked nicely.
I think with the right role, good writing she would do another T movie.
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6. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 25 2011, 6:34 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 25 2011, 6:34 PM EST
"Linda turned down T-3 because she did not like the story or what they wrote for Sarah.
she did a voice over for T-4
she might have made appearance on tscc if she had been asked nicely.
I think with the right role, good writing she would do another T movie.
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As I wrote, my infos are dated years ago (~'93-96, many years before T3), and mainly were about the impact of the role of SC in her career, not about the willing to play her again. By now, after 20 years by T2, I think she could have changed her mind, mainly if we're talking about a small appearance (which was only good for a career) and if the character is not mainly thought as an a*s-kicker.
I hope she could do another T movie too... and I hope it to be a good T movie! Do you find this valuable?    
MetalHunter
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7. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 25 2011, 7:11 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 25 2011, 7:36 PM EST
To be honest, I believe that Pacificor is a crowd of Terminator lovers from Future, who want to freeze any Terminator movie/show new release, until one great nation from North America give a break about the emo-tards and crazy women who save the world, and go back to great notions that even created this proud nation.

Then, I have no problem to wait 20 years, to see a realistically Sarah Connor and a true John Connor. I'm not so old. ;)

You believe that I'm crazy? :D

Imagine something like Terminator vs. Good Vampire. Thanks God, I believe that is not quite possible this thing now... So ... I'm wait.

Still, I admit that an fight between one Arnhuld and this guy will be interesting...

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8. RE: Article: 10 Ways to Save the Terminator Franchise
Feb 26 2011, 11:05 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2011, 11:12 AM EST
"To be honest, I believe that Pacificor is a crowd of Terminator lovers from Future, who want to freeze any Terminator movie/show new release, until one great nation from North America give a break about the emo-tards and crazy women who save the world, and go back to great notions that even created this proud nation.

Then, I have no problem to wait 20 years, to see a realistically Sarah Connor and a true John Connor. I'm not so old. ;)

You believe that I'm crazy? :D

Imagine something like Terminator vs. Good Vampire. Thanks God, I believe that is not quite possible this thing now... I'm wait.

Still, I admit that an fight between one Arnhuld and this guy will be interesting
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"Versus" movies never attracted me, they sounds like "we want people who know at least one kind to buy the ticket "...
Anyway you could like this, meantime :P

If Pacificor wanted a good movie they did what was also economically good: to produce it! They bought the rights and, by now, they only wasted money: they could have invested some other money to make money, which is their business, (to produce a good movie), choosing the director and the plot form a range of proposal they could have had...

Anyway there's no battle between Terminators and a vampires: the first don't sleep, the second sleep too much (and all together, despite humans!): too easy to kill them all while sleeping... in "Brother of Nabulus" story style!


EDIT: Oh, about emo-tards and so on, I ever thought that in TSCC all humans have been intentionally made a bit "tard" and crazy, because, as someone wrote in another thread, Terminator fans (and I add story!) are a bit "misanthropic", and I figure that the intention was actually that! Do you find this valuable?