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thecrusadingknight |
Root for HT to fail
Jan 16 2010, 5:47 PM EST
I don't want to say what HT stands for, lest it get more fandex attention. It's that new show premiering tomorrow on FOX. And this is the one that Josh mentioned in his blog where he expressed his anger and sadness about TSCC's cancellation. Root fo this one to fail BIG time. Let justice be done upon the network that killed TSCC! Yes I know it also aired TSCC in the first place, but come on!
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termi-ninja-tor |
1. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 16 2010, 6:25 PM EST
"I don't want to say what HT stands for, lest it get more fandex attention. It's that new show premiering tomorrow on FOX. And this is the one that Josh mentioned in his blog where he expressed his anger and sadness about TSCC's cancellation. Root fo this one to fail BIG time. Let justice be done upon the network that killed TSCC! Yes I know it also aired TSCC in the first place, but come on!"OK "fail, fail, fail, fail, fail" I'm actually gonna watch the first episode cuz the ad trailers looked exciting. But not to worry, I am not a Nielsen TV, so it doesn't matter if I watch or not. Do you find this valuable? |
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2. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 16 2010, 8:05 PM EST
Yes, let's join in with the campaign to remove all science fiction from network TV because one of the shows we liked was canceled. That's really mature and sensible and not destructive at all.
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thecrusadingknight |
3. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 12:09 AM EST
"Yes, let's join in with the campaign to remove all science fiction from network TV because one of the shows we liked was canceled. That's really mature and sensible and not destructive at all."That is not what I meant. Not at all, I'm sorry if it was intrepreted that way. I'm not saying campaign against it, I'm saying I hope it fails. If anyone likes it, I'm not gonna be like "How dare you?" I personally refuse to watch any of these new pilots, as they are a part of why TSCC was cancelled. Never rebelled against Dollhouse though. Well, I think this discussion may as well be deleted. Do you find this valuable? |
t5000 |
4. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 1:59 AM EST
"That is not what I meant. Not at all, I'm sorry if it was intrepreted that way. I'm not saying campaign against it, I'm saying I hope it fails. If anyone likes it, I'm not gonna be like "How dare you?" I personally refuse to watch any of these new pilots, as they are a part of why TSCC was cancelled. Never rebelled against Dollhouse though. Well, I think this discussion may as well be deleted."Well CK that is not why tscc was cancelled , even if they had not had any new pilots they would have run reruns rather than keep tscc on. they would have canceled it at 2x13, but wb offered them a cheap price for the back 9 so they could keep the show on till t-4 came out. fox couldnt make money off the show cause wb charged so much to make it. and with low ratings and low "demo " ratings they couldnt sell ads at a good price. this is why DH is now gone if though it is a fox made show very cheap they couldnt make money with it. if the could they would keep dh on fridays for awhile. I felt the same way as you about these new shows, but like tnt said with no neilsen box no one knows your watching anyway and even if they fail it wont hurt fox or bring tscc back. but that said glee and fringe are moderate successes but may not be around much longer. all others have failed. as for human target ,I like the main actor and have already seen the pilot and it was fairly good. tricia helfer from bsg guest stars. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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wahoo4 |
5. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 4:37 AM EST
YES I hope it fails. I've not watched anything on FOX since it was canceled.
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Claire.Young |
6. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 7:13 AM EST
"Root fo this one to fail BIG time. Let justice be done upon the network that killed TSCC! "As of this moment, I am hastening the arrival of JDay so that this replacement show burns in nuclear hellfire. Allison will be better off living in a post-Jday wasteland, than a world that let's HT air on TV. On the other hand, 24 restarts very very very soon. Do you find this valuable? |
ninelives888 |
7. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 10:57 AM EST
| Post edited: Jan 17 2010, 10:58 AM EST
"That is not what I meant. Not at all, I'm sorry if it was intrepreted that way. I'm not saying campaign against it, I'm saying I hope it fails. If anyone likes it, I'm not gonna be like "How dare you?" I personally refuse to watch any of these new pilots, as they are a part of why TSCC was cancelled. Never rebelled against Dollhouse though. Well, I think this discussion may as well be deleted."I don't get at all what your thinking. Are you never going to like another show again ? And you would like everyone to join you , lol. I know you saw future for yourself in the TSCC Kingdom, but it was not meant to be. I can't wait for the two night 24 season opener either. Jack saves NY now ! Do you find this valuable? |
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thecrusadingknight |
8. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 11:56 AM EST
"I don't get at all what your thinking. Are you never going to like another show again ? And you would like everyone to join you , lol.No you don't get my thinking, not at all. I was referring only to Fox pilots. Yes, Fox wanted to cancel this show and has even before episode 13, but the new pilots played a big role. Truth be told I did not want my words to be taken so seriously, and am quite suprised that people did. As a matter of fact, I have recently heard that Bear McCreary is on HT. If that is the case, then I can't really root for this one to fail. But I still will not watch any of Fox's new pilots. Do you find this valuable? |
SurfingEagle |
9. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 1:10 PM EST
I wonder how many people, that will applaud a suggested boycott of human target, also watched dollhouse. HT is no more associated with the cancellation of TSCC than DH. HT wasn't even a show yet when TSCC was canceled. Yet, DH was chosen to take TSCC's time slot. TSCC was just too expensive, and it didn't get enough viewers to justify the cost. Tricia Helfer is in HT. Was she not a great cylon for BSG in one mini-series, four regular seasons and two movies. Has she not contributed greatly to sci-fi. She didn't do anything, yet, she will be punished by anyone that decides to boycott the show.I for one will try and watch HT, and I will certainly be watching 24 as it was my favorite show long before TSCC aired. Katee Sackhoff, our beloved Starbuck, will be playing Dana Walsh in 24 through out the whole season. I'm usually excited when 24 starts off its season but now I'm practically hyperventilating. And I have casually watched Fringe, even though it's a ripoff of X files. But I mostly just like Anna Torv's rendition of a stoic female agent. Do you find this valuable? |
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termi-ninja-tor |
10. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 17 2010, 1:26 PM EST
There oughta be a wiki for Nielsen homes. Then they can praise or diss shows for effect.
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meanoldmoe |
11. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 11:14 AM EST
Well I watched it and it is ok , but nothing spectacular. ( I did like Tricia Helfer , she did a good job )This show is based on a comic strip? It has the same sort of feeling like the show "The Philanthropist ", a couple of good episodes, but nothing exciting enough to make me want to keep it around. I can see it being killed off soon, if it doesn't get any better ,and some dumb reality show will take it's place....that or another dumb musical show like "Glee" Do you find this valuable? |
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SurfingEagle |
12. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 12:07 PM EST
"Well I watched it and it is ok , but nothing spectacular. ( I did like Tricia Helfer , she did a good job )I basically have the same assessment. Tricia Helfer was good but the show is nothing special just a sort of James Bond ripoff. Tricia Helfer was just guest starring. I don't believe she'll be reoccurring on the show. Dr Cottle from BSG made a surprising quick appearance in a bit part. I can't say whether a show like this will make it as my taste in shows is not usually inline with mass appeal, but I doubt that I will be a regular viewer. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
13. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 3:03 PM EST
"No you don't get my thinking, not at all. I was referring only to Fox pilots. Yes, Fox wanted to cancel this show and has even before episode 13, but the new pilots played a big role.ok the pilots dont really play a role in another shows cancelation , when the show being canceled is doing bad in the ratings. tscc cost more than it made. if fox had ordered a S-3, they would have lost money. what would be the sense in that?? the wb discounted the back 9 , but a season 3 woudl have been regular price. the only reason fox kept DH was it was made by fox and was very cheap so they could maybe break even on that and give it a chance, I doubt fox made $ on DH, but it was so cheap being made in house. they gave it 13 more eps. had DH been made by wb it would not have had a S-2. tv land is weird, for example the show medium was made by cbs, but it aired on nbc for 5 years, then nbc canceled it so cbs decided to air it themsleves on fri night. it was a hit in the begining. but it is weird that cbs would make a show , and then let nbc air it. I think maybe cbs made few then decided it would not do good so then offered it up and nbc took it. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
14. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 3:23 PM EST
Human Target did ok, in ratings, 2.9 demo and 10 mil viewers,24 ws 3.8 and 11 mil golden globes took away from all of sun night shows, DH had their lowest rated show ever. Human Target IS replacing a reality show, "so you think you can dance" ! that in itself is a reason to root for the show?? it will air on wed after idol, for one week then it will be the lead in for idol. the reason for this is fox wants idol on in the 2nd hour of primetime , so Human Target will have to be the lead-in. currently I dont watch any of the wed. shows, so I am glad Human Target is on wed. I watched 24, and it was good, I was disappointed t see the same woman president , as she gets on my nerves. and you should root for scripted shows over reality shows, or tv could become all reality/game shows. tscc failed because it didnt grab enough young "neilsen" viewers, it is that simple. if it had had a better young demo it would still be on tv. Do you find this valuable? |
ChrisCoachKKincey |
15. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 4:27 PM EST
It is tijme we stop this crap about hating something else as vengence for what was done to TSCC. This is not fair and not true!TSCC was poor running both internally and externally. I (and many others here) have ranted ad nausem about why our show got cancelled. The T franchise is still in the midst of turmoil: ssdd... Other shows don't have anything to do with TSCC. A better tactic would be to boycott Fox altogether, but i won't bc I like 24. Good thing i no longer watch the Simpsons! And I wonder how many will view Amer Idol now that Simon is leaving...I haven't watched in several seasons so it doesn't matter to me. Do you find this valuable? |
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SurfingEagle |
16. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 18 2010, 5:24 PM EST
"golden globes took away from all of sun night shows, DH had their lowest rated show ever.The golden globes can't bring down 24 not the mighty 24. And I agree that not watching other programs on Fox is not going to bring TSCC back. It's better that TSCC find its way back through another outlet. Let those in charge of it make the needed changes and let it gain support and popularity through another avenue. Once it has enough of a following, then try again on Fox. Do you find this valuable? |
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dudeitsmario |
17. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 19 2010, 2:11 AM EST
I don't watch any shows on Fox, so fail away HT!
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Schmacky |
18. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 19 2010, 7:05 AM EST
"Other shows don't have anything to do with TSCC."See, I don't understand this statement because Fox actually said that it depended on the new pilots whether or not SCC would be picked up for another season or not. Do you find this valuable? |
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19. RE: Root for HT to fail
Jan 19 2010, 1:11 PM EST
Basically, bc TSCC collapse was as much a contrived internal affair as it was an external one - maybe more so.It is hard to view that harsh reality being fans but that's what it boils down to, IMO. There was a lot that ran off fans of the T franchise, and left them wondering WTF after watching the show. There was a lot of bad timing with long delays that lost a lot of audience. There was a lot of not giving Fox what it thought it bought for millions upon millions of dollars. Yet we sit here and blame them for being pissed! If I gave someone ten bucks and they didn't give me what I sent them for I'd be ready to punch them in the mouth. Anyone would. And yeah, I'd prolly seek to "intervene" to correct the matter if I thought the person running the errand displayed a disposition to continue on a course not agreed upon. This would leave me with two choices: 1) try to do what I thought I could to recoup my losses and make the investment pay off the way I thought it could originally... In Fox's case given the T 25 year track record they threw good money after bad for an extended period of time (and matters only got worse) 2) Give up altogether. This they finally did, but seemed to give it every shot to recitify, even though they didn't have to. Well, they didn't give it that one last shot WE wanted, but can you blame them? Well, WE do. But business people trying to make a profit by being sically sound wouldn't continue on the path it was going. No one I know would. Unless they were doing it out of love not money. Unfortunately, showrunner didn't show a true love of the franchise either, so can't use that as a platform to continue. Do you find this valuable? |
