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The1Russter |
It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 8 2010, 5:16 PM EST
Since the discussion of "It is a struggle writing part 2" has progressed now to the upcoming conclusion of Part 3, I am beginning this thread now to discuss and share thoughts of Part 3 as has been done for Part 2. I want to thank all who helped me get through the difficult period of writing Part 2 and I hope you will be there for me again as I struggle through writing part 3.The following are comments I have made on part 3 in the old thread on part 2: "Part 2 Is complete (except for future edits) and Part 3 is in the works. I will begin a new thread on that subject when the time is getting closer for posting. I mention future edits, as there are some details that may get changed, or revised based on the writing of Part 3." "I am hoping to post Part 3 before the end of February. No guarantee. I want to make sure everything flows smoothly in the final chapters to Reunion, as they have to tie up a lot of loose threads and it has to be done in a way that makes sense without creating more problems. And at the same time, be a good story in it's own right. Though I envision the whole thing as a novel, I also envision each part as a book (hence the parts) each building on the previous part. I also have approached each part differently and will be doing so again with Part 3." Do you find this valuable? |
MetalHunter |
1. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 8 2010, 5:32 PM EST
Okay... maybe a complete idiot question:You tried to create also a PDF form for your published work? This "thing" can made a easy access to the guys that want to read the story, but they are so busy to made this thing on-line, is a great thing for the guys that want their collections or even for... editors/book companies? Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
2. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 8 2010, 5:43 PM EST
"Okay... maybe a complete idiot question:Upon completion of my entire story, I am going to make a PDF encompassing the whole thing. If the file is too big, perhaps break it down according to parts. I have always wanted to create a PDF for Reunion. I even created a book cover for it using graphics found here on this wiki and another on a wikia encyclopedia page by an unknown artist. Thinking too far ahead? Dreams bigger than reality? I don't think so. If you don't aim for something high, you will never get off the ground. As far as it being made available for editors/book companies. Oh God, Please, yes. I've absolutely have fallen in love with writing. I wish I found this path at a younger age, but then it took something like TSCC to inspire me. Do you find this valuable? |
meanoldmoe |
3. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 9 2010, 7:41 AM EST
Writing is a passion, and your passion for TSCC shows in the quality of your work Russ!!It is also hard as heck to write well......especially if it has been a while, or never done before. I'm still in the infancy of my story, and the frustrations I have are almost overwhelming. The last time I wrote anything like this was when we used stone tablets and bronze tools in school!!! Age should not matter in writing, just the ambition to do it should. Given the time and effort you are putting into the story Russ, I'm sure it will flow just fine and have allot of interesting surprises......like when we find out if Allison is alive, or if Allison is really Cameron ( my favorite question I have asked right from way back ) Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
4. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 9 2010, 9:28 AM EST
TSCC was definitely the inspiration. I just fell in love with the characters, the performances, the stories. I still am passionate about them. I have not seen a TV show as good since it went off and I am very disappointed by what's available on TV now.You have to love what you do or else the quality just isn't there. I've worked for twenty years as a draftsman and I would pour myself into my work, but the last few years as the economy went through its ups & downs and I began having increasing difficulty with my back, I was losing my joy in my work. Since I began writing last April, I have never enjoyed myself more. I love these characters and I am doing my best to give them a story worthy of their characters. The conclusion has got to be good. From the outset, it has to be a good story on its own. Two, it must wrap up events from the previous Parts. & Three, it needs to end in a manner that makes you happy for the heroes and gives you a sense of closure, yet leaves enough there to build on for the future. With all of that to do, my hat really goes off to those who do this professionally. Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
5. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 22 2010, 1:36 PM EST
I am still having difficulty merging storylines and writing up a decent battle for part 3. I told one person I was planning on beginning posting Part 3 the end of February, but right now i don't think that is possible. I am making a list of those "problem areas" and I'll probably write up various scenes to address each one. Then use the best version which works best with the overall story. That is one idea I'm working with.
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meanoldmoe |
6. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 23 2010, 8:22 AM EST
Hi Russ,No need to rush things, as that usually leads to mistakes being made, or you end up not liking what you wrote and decide to re-write. "feeling out" different scenes to find the best is a good idea, especially if you want everything to flow better and you are worried about how it will fit in. Kinda reminds me of those books that would have choices in certain parts, so one could make up their own ending to the story, by choosing a different path for the character at a pivotal point. Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
7. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 23 2010, 11:17 AM EST
"Hi Russ,I am taking my time. hence possible delay in posting. Almost finished with January, and not much further ahead than end of December. When I hit roadblock, i work on something else. 1st three chapters complete, last two being edited/written depending on scene. The middle one or two chapters are what give me problems. Those will probably get written, and rewritten. I've already change my ideas on one major aspect. And will probably change my mind on others. Reviewing first two films to regenerate imagination for Terminator and Sarah. I remember those stories where you could choose an action then turn to the appropriate page. I always ended up dying or losing. I hated those stories. LOL Do you find this valuable? |
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meanoldmoe |
8. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 23 2010, 12:46 PM EST
Choosing the wrong action was okay, provided you turned back right away to make another choice ( call it a mulligan )I had a few of those books!! When it comes to writing part 3 and tying it into the other 2 parts, I can see how it could drive you nuts. Complications are sure to arise, as well as conflicts with parts in the storyline ....persistence and patience will help. Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
9. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 23 2010, 2:11 PM EST
" When it comes to writing part 3 and tying it into the other 2 parts, I can see how it could drive you nuts.Don't I know it! Pretty much i keep to the themes when moving from Pt 1 to Pt 2, but Part 3 has got to take all of those threads woven throughout and deliver an ending without making it more complicated. I've begun going through some earlier chapters and nothing really shows that puts a hole in the plot, but there are few things which strain it a little. Conflicts! You know it used to drive me nuts with shows that had been on TV a long time and each season or every few seasons you would have a change in writers or script editors, producers, directors, etc. and because of those changes, you would get a story that would make you cringe as a viewer because it would contradict something that occurred in an earlier episode of the same season or a previous season. I'm only one guy trying to balance out this long story, and I have managed to avoid some major pitfalls, but I know, I know, some careful reader, like you who analyzes everything (which I love) will point out some detail that absolutely doesn't fit that i missed. that is why, after I write part 3 I am going to go through with a fine tooth comb and scan for strong errors.I won't include anything Catherine Weaver says - i don't trust anything she says and its coming off the end of my pen, figuratively speaking that is. Do you find this valuable? |
Nyrki |
10. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 26 2010, 5:52 PM EST
Hello The1Russter,I'm new to the forum, I'm from France and I would like to say thank you, cause after the finale of season 2, I've turned really frustrated and desperate, as you and many others have probably been. All these unanswered questions after this beautiful show and talented actors. And then I stumbled upon the fanfics and started by yours. Thank you because I could finally got in touch with the story and have a sequel. You've got great talent at writing, because I got no difficulties to dive into, and I'm reading chapter after chapter, stopping only because I have to go to bed. I'm only at chapter 17 and the story is great. I'll make some comments when I know more. My preferred character is Cameron (like a lot of fans) and I like the mystery you maintain around her and her fate. Anyway, I support you in your effort in writing part 3. Some people are waiting. And I'm waiting with some patience as I would prefer you to take your time to make it well. Cheers Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
11. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 26 2010, 6:22 PM EST
Thank you Nyrki,I worked hard to make the story an interesting read and I can't wait to finish this story and give everyone a sound and satisfying conclusion to Reunion. I am a big fan of dramatic stories with intrigue and suspense, of characters of questionable motives or identity. I like complex plots of stories that contain elements that can appeal to a wide range of people and not just to a few. I also like stories that make the reader think. Give the reader a plot that takes twists and turns, or characters that make sudden or unexplained changes that want you coming back to read more to find out why they said this or that or why this happened. Too many stories these days are too simple. I'm not decrying them. I like a nice simple drama or romance or comedy, or whatever on occasion. But when it comes to a story I want to lock myself away, or I can't get to sleep because i can't put the book down. I love stories that I can't put down until i finish them. I've lost many hours of sleep over good stories. I sincerely hope to begin posting Part 3 before the end of winter. I am taking my time and making sure everything runs smoothly together in all chapters before posting any. Thank you Nyrki for your support. Do you find this valuable? |
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MetalHunter |
12. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 26 2010, 6:38 PM EST
"Hello The1Russter,Welcome on the club, Nyrki! :D @Russ... News about Reunion? BTW. I love your (alternate story) What_Are_Dreams! Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
13. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 26 2010, 6:47 PM EST
"Welcome on the club, Nyrki! :DIf I hear from enough people, i may post "What Are Dreams?" here on the Wiki and start a thread to discuss it. I like the story too. For something that started off as a one-shot, it just grew legs and began walking. I've got a good idea on how to end it. I just have to make sure it sticks to theme up until the end. When i have some fresh news on Reunion Part 3, I will post it. It is still in progress. Tricky chapters to write in the middle and I'm formulating ideas. Do you find this valuable? |
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meanoldmoe |
14. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 26 2010, 7:39 PM EST
I think you should post" What Are Dreams"I find it a nice change of pace from most of the fan fics out there. Welcome to the forum Nyrki !!! Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
15. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 28 2010, 10:09 PM EST
| Post edited: Jan 29 2010, 9:46 PM EST
I've made some progress today on part 3. Wrote the demise of the bad guy with some remorse by the person who committed the act. I wish I could say more, but not without revealing some of my story. I also put some more work on a significant scene I wrote this weekend. I still have a fight to write and some reunions of sorts to complete. Slow work, but I feel like I've made some progress.Edit 01-29-2010: I forgot to mention I wrote a scene bringing together two characters from Part 1 that got separated plus a character from Part 2. I'll say no more. Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
16. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 30 2010, 4:03 PM EST
I find it interesting, that the new scenes i have been writing for part 3 are working their way from both the beginning and the end toward the middle where the major work is yet to be completed. I just wrote another scene today in the yet incomplete Chapter 32. it is very difficult to write some scenes without giving away the full disclosure that will occur near the very end. But i hope, that despite all you will go through in reading this story, you will understand that my struggle has been all the harder to write it.
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meanoldmoe |
17. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 31 2010, 8:20 AM EST
When it is something you care about, it can get very frustrating to get it to come together and work.I am confident Part 3 will turn out just fine. So how many chapters are in Part 3?? I'm thinking more than originally planned!! Do you find this valuable? |
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The1Russter |
18. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Jan 31 2010, 9:18 AM EST
| Post edited: Jan 31 2010, 9:43 AM EST
"When it is something you care about, it can get very frustrating to get it to come together and work.You so know me, don't you Moe? Right now it is looking like 7 chapters and 1 epilogue, which is a change from the originally planned 5 chapters and 2 epilogues. 1 epilogue has been made into a chapter and the end of chapter interludes to alternate future 2029 have been made into their own chapter to avoid any confusion, as I have flashbacks to the final moments of 2027 in the first three chapters and final chapter of the main story. But don't rely on this summary, I'm sure as I write more, things could change again. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
TomThuenen |
19. RE: It is now a struggle writing Part 3
Feb 2 2010, 9:44 PM EST
I love your story so far. The fact you have not had John and Camaron have sex yet is cool. The BIG problem that everyone has overlooked is that Camarons Skin is just that, SKIN! She can NOT have sex with John!! Not as she is currently built. She's got nothing down there but a hole, if even that. No insides to her vigina, no mucles, no way for her to lube up. Nothing. If they do it John will be very disappointed. John Henry mite be able to rebuild her to be more human on the inside but till then sex should be out. Of coures, if she was rebuild well enough could she have a child? Half human, half...? Now that would be a story but that mite look like a rip off of Battle Star Galactica, which I hate with a passion!I really thought you would have Allison jump into the time portal. It would solve one problem but create a lot more. John Henry could have used Alison for parts to upgrade Camaron but that mite be to harsh. Do you find this valuable? |
