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wilson_low |
The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 11 2009, 12:21 PM EDT
I get first dibs....John Henry is great! John Henry is Savannah's friend! John Henry sees right through Catherine Weaver! John Henry's programming + Cameron's chip (with a little assist from Cromartie's body) will help John Connor save the world! In short, John Henry FTW!!! 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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Enigma6482 |
1. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 11 2009, 12:45 PM EDT
*Awkward smile*"Hello..." "I know you..." 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Gulde |
2. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 11 2009, 12:52 PM EDT
...Twenty!^^
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wilson_low |
3. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 11 2009, 11:44 PM EDT
Here's a thought:John Henry did what Sarah, John, and Cameron did in the pilot episode. He decided to stop running from Skynet's attacks in the present day, and start hunting it instead. How? By jumping into a future where Skynet does not know he exists. John was not supposed to follow him (only Catherine Weaver was); he was supposed to stay put, behave, and grow up into an adult John Connor... an adult John Connor whom John Henry might have been intending to meet in the future. What is certain is that in BTR, John Henry appears in all possible iterations of the future timelines (no matter what John's decision to stay in the present/go to the future was)... this sets up the premise that John Henry starts his work against Skynet in all alternate futures. Curiously, Weaver does not force Ellison to jump aboard the bubble, neither does she push John out of it (probably knowing full well that if he joined her, they would arrive in a future with no John Connor). Her possible reasons for doing so are many. Discuss.... Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
4. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 11 2009, 11:59 PM EDT
Possibly both Catherine and John Henry wanted to see what John's reaction to losing Cameron would be and how far he would be willing to go to get her back. John's wiliness to sacrifice everything for Cameron could be proof (to CW and JH) that a human/machine alliance could work. “He shoots…he scores!!!” Do you find this valuable? |
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5. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 12:07 AM EDT
Twenty!I love that. Do you find this valuable? |
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dudeitsmario |
6. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 12:18 AM EDT
John Henry FTW!
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kaotic |
7. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 12:25 AM EDT
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"Twenty!"What color did you want to use for the eyes?" "Blue." something like that, I haven't seen that episode in so long. :/ Do you find this valuable? |
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wilson_low |
8. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 12:35 AM EDT
"Possibly both Catherine and John Henry wanted to see what John's reaction to losing Cameron would be and how far he would be willing to go to get her back. John's wiliness to sacrifice everything for Cameron could be proof (to CW and JH) that a human/machine alliance could work.Hmmm... good point. I think Catherine stands to learn the most. IMO, as she has seen the most out of the whole saga. - The fallibility of humans (The Jimmy Carter incident) - The morality of valuing human life (Dr. Sherman and Ellison) - The vulnerability and naivety of a child (Savannah... AND John Henry to a certain degree) - Parent/child love (replacing Savannah's mother, knowing about Sarah and John) - plus, she curiously misconstrues her understanding of this topic by declaring that JH is her's and Ellison's 'boy' - Human/machine love (Jameron, 'nuff said) Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
9. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 7:21 PM EDT
"Hmmm...See my fan fic for further on the theory that CW and JH wanted to see how far John was willing to go for Cameron. Do you find this valuable? |
SurfingEagle |
10. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 8:00 PM EDT
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"I get first dibs....what? there wasn't an official John Henry thread. You forgot that he also sings well for a highly advanced AI computer. JH was really the best original idea anyone had in the series. Do I dare say even better than the unique special Cameron idea. Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
11. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 8:04 PM EDT
"what? there wasn't an official John Henry thread.I wouldn't go that far (b/c we really don't know all that was involved with Cameron's character); but, he was an EXTREMELY good character....Probably 2nd most unique... Do you find this valuable? |
MMM.MIND |
12. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 8:06 PM EDT
"I get first dibs....John Henry is some king of skynet which want peace with man kind John Henry is something new and special in Terminator world.... Do you find this valuable? |
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SurfingEagle |
13. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 8:54 PM EDT
"I wouldn't go that far (b/c we really don't know all that was involved with Cameron's character); but, he was an EXTREMELY good character....Probably 2nd most unique..."I don't agree with that. Cameron was a continuation of two ideas a buddy terminator form T2 and the TX from T3. So that character was not a new idea really. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dudeitsmario |
14. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 9:01 PM EDT
I love when John Henry and Savannah sing "Donald Where's Your Trousers"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd_Zgla48g4 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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toasty2 |
15. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 9:04 PM EDT
Yeah. That was creepy awesome.
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Enigma6482 |
16. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 9:07 PM EDT
"I don't agree with that. Cameron was a continuation of two ideas a buddy terminator form T2 and the TX from T3. So that character was not a new idea really."Yes but we don't know what her involvement with John is, nor do we know what exactly is her "emotional" responce ability (does she have emotions does she not??). Plus if you tie in Alison's back story it makes her even more complex. Do you find this valuable? |
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SurfingEagle |
17. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 9:27 PM EDT
"Yes but we don't know what her involvement with John is, nor do we know what exactly is her "emotional" responce ability (does she have emotions does she not??). Plus if you tie in Alison's back story it makes her even more complex. "Ok, but that's all subjective. I'm not that interested in Allison's back story. For me, it was the JH story arc that brought me into being a fan, and Cameron just rounded it off for me. Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
18. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 10:07 PM EDT
"Ok, but that's all subjective. I'm not that interested in Allison's back story. For me, it was the JH story arc that brought me into being a fan, and Cameron just rounded it off for me."Oh his story arc was brilliant...I still like Cameron better though...But John Henry is still great none the less. Do you find this valuable? |
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SurfingEagle |
19. RE: The Official John Henry Thread
Aug 12 2009, 10:32 PM EDT
"Oh his story arc was brilliant...I still like Cameron better though...But John Henry is still great none the less. "Let's just be honest. What you're really saying is that you would much rather gaze at Cameron's "story arcs" ;) Do you find this valuable? |
