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NedLudd
NedLudd
would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:23 PM EDT
this is a two part question

would you kill andy goode if you thought there was a pretty good chance that would stop jday


would you kill andy goode because he created jday
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MR-X47
MR-X47
1. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:27 PM EDT
"this is a two part question

would you kill andy goode if you thought there was a pretty good chance that would stop jday


would you kill andy goode because he created jday"
Yes, he should of been killed at the first sign. If they would of burned down his house and killed him it would have solved the problem of the new TURK computer being built and stolen.
The first question and the second question are almost the same. So yes, i would kill him. Easy as that.

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dudeitsmario
2. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
If I was in Derek's situation, I don't know. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
toasty2
toasty2
3. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:30 PM EDT
Nah. Andy was a good guy. I'd get him to try to do something about it. Do you find this valuable?    
NedLudd
NedLudd
4. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:31 PM EDT
"The first question and the second question are almost the same. So yes, i would kill him. Easy as that.

"
question one is about prevention

question two is about retribution
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
5. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:32 PM EDT
1) yes. absolutely. To save billions of lives, yes. It must have been extremely emotionally taxing on Derek though, since Andy was is good friend... he even referred to him as his brother.

2) I'm assuming you mean kill him at the current time (post JDay) as a sort of retribution. The answer would be "No".
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rref
rref
6. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:34 PM EDT
Yes. If it would stop J-Day, then I'd kill anyone... or at least try.

No. What's done is done, and if killing him won't stop J-Day, then what's the point? (Assuming I were Derek) He was my best friend and a great resistance fighter. He has inside knowledge to how Skynet works. He's also a human being and on our side.
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Charley_Dixon
Charley_Dixon
7. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:52 PM EDT
I like the Sarah's way to handle this situation: "just sit Andy down and tell him everything". If that worked for Miles Dyson, why wouldn't it work for Andy? Do you find this valuable?    
Prince_Xenu
Prince_Xenu
8. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 9:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 9:57 PM EDT
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

What Would Cameron Do? :-p
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Enigma6482
Enigma6482
9. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 10:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 10:02 PM EDT
Strangely enough Andy Goode may end up saving humanity b/c by building the Turk II, it in turn allows John Henry to be created who can be used to defeat Skynet. Do you find this valuable?    

PyroDude
10. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 10:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 11:01 PM EDT
"this is a two part question

would you kill andy goode if you thought there was a pretty good chance that would stop jday


would you kill andy goode because he created jday"
No.

How would killing him even stop JDay? You ask him to stop and show him the proof. Andy seemed like a great guy, really nice and trusting, and I don't doubt he would have stopped if he knew. I'd bet good money you could persuade him to be an ally and help stop it.

Plus, he wasn't individually responsible. Andy's confession to Derek was a personal confession which focused on himself. There were many others on that team.

And no, killing him because he was part of a team which led to JDay is pointless and unethical and immoral. How could he know a Skynet or whatever it was would nuke the world? You can't blame him for that because he never set out to build a genocidal AI. If he set out to build said genocidal AI, then yes, you can blame him.
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termi-ninja-tor
termi-ninja-tor
11. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 6 2009, 11:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 11:43 PM EDT
"Yes. If it would stop J-Day, then I'd kill anyone... or at least try.

No. What's done is done, and if killing him won't stop J-Day, then what's the point? (Assuming I were Derek) He was my best friend and a great resistance fighter. He has inside knowledge to how Skynet works. He's also a human being and on our side."
This.
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Akuji
Akuji
12. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 12:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 12:03 AM EDT
"this is a two part question

would you kill andy goode if you thought there was a pretty good chance that would stop jday


would you kill andy goode because he created jday"
He had an annoying voice and was a cell phone salesman. Therefore yes he deserves to die.
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Enigma6482
Enigma6482
13. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 12:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 12:08 AM EDT
"He had an annoying voice and was a cell phone salesman. Therefore yes he deserves to die."
hahaha....Think you could take that Verizon guy out with him as well?
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m1919
14. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 12:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 12:35 AM EDT
"hahaha....Think you could take that Verizon guy out with him as well?"
I would. One shot. :)
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Schmacky
Schmacky
15. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 12:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 12:41 AM EDT
No

Yes

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the chance is just a guess. Derek killed Andy thinking that would stop it but he didn't friggin listen to him. Andy said there was a group of people.. Andy wasn't the only reason... and stupid Derek killed Andy before he could find out who else was involved.

There wasn't enough evidence and so Derek fucked up the future. All you who say "yes" would have done the same.. and jack up the future just as much.
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Akuji
Akuji
16. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 12:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 12:47 AM EDT
"hahaha....Think you could take that Verizon guy out with him as well?"
As well as that really ugly inbred looking girl from the Pilot in the classroom.
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PyroDude
17. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 1:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 1:21 AM EDT
Why would people kill him for causing JDay? He didn't go out and try and cause it.

Even if he was tasked with building the AI for the military... so what? Who in their right mind would think the AI you're building is going to go all 1980s sci-fi cliche and kill everyone? The creation of Skynet in the original timeline was good idea, it just had some bad execution. Killing Andy or anyone associated with Skynet after JDay is murder.
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
18. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 1:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 1:28 AM EDT
"No

Yes

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the chance is just a guess. Derek killed Andy thinking that would stop it but he didn't friggin listen to him. Andy said there was a group of people.. Andy wasn't the only reason... and stupid Derek killed Andy before he could find out who else was involved.

There wasn't enough evidence and so Derek fucked up the future. All you who say "yes" would have done the same.. and jack up the future just as much."
Aw crap. Schamcky is right. I would have killed him in vain.

Oh well... at least he got a couple dates with Sarah Connor before he bit the dust. Surely he died a happy man.
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termi-ninja-tor
termi-ninja-tor
19. RE: would you kill andy goode?
Aug 7 2009, 1:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 2:34 AM EDT
A little OT: It's a good thing Sarah didn't kill Andy but decided to destroy the original Turk by burning his house down. By letting him live, she permitted him to make Turk 2, which became John Henry. And I believe John Henry becomes an important ally for the Resistance in the future. Do you find this valuable?    
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