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PyroDude |
The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:31 PM EDT
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Too much angsty drama and not enough talk on the killer robots called terminators. So, does anyone have theories on how terminators are scientifically possible/probable?Carbon nanotubes for muscles instead of hydraulics? Or maybe some sort of carbon nanotube integrated into the "hyperalloy"? How does the Terminators not suffer metal fatigue and stress fractures? What exactly is a neural net CPU? Is it made from carbon nano materials like graphene or is it silicon based? Quantum based? How do the terminators store so much information? Is it some sort of holographic storage medium? Do they have some sort of solid state drive instead? How does the skin regrow so fast? Maybe the terminators somehow emit signals controlling cellular differentiation? How much do Terminators need to eat? We saw the Stark terminator... so maybe they somehow sustain their skin with electrical current from their power source? And what exactly is their power source? How long will it last? Late edit: I also kind of want to know because I like throwing in some 'plausible' pseudo-science into fan fictions. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?
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cp442 |
1. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:33 PM EDT
All I can answer with certainty is "how long will it (the power source) last?" In T2, I believe, Uncle Bob said something like 100 years' lifespan.
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2. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:34 PM EDT
"All I can answer with certainty is "how long will it (the power source) last?" In T2, I believe, Uncle Bob said something like 100 years' lifespan. "You are correct, he did say that., Do you find this valuable? |
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3. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:37 PM EDT
The pistons that most people assume to by hydraulic actuators might not actually be hydraulic actuators. They may be an extremely evolved form of electro-linear actuator; a linear electric motor.
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PyroDude |
4. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:38 PM EDT
"All I can answer with certainty is "how long will it (the power source) last?" In T2, I believe, Uncle Bob said something like 100 years' lifespan. "Yes. But is that based on day-to-day operations? How much extra juice will it take for the amazing feats the terminators perform? Do you find this valuable? |
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5. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:39 PM EDT
"The pistons that most people assume to by hydraulic actuators might not actually be hydraulic actuators. They may be an extremely evolved form of electro-linear actuator; a linear electric motor."But don't electric motors take time to activate? That doesn't seem beneficial. Do you find this valuable? |
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6. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:43 PM EDT
It is my professional opinion that terminators are fuelled by faith, trust, and pixie dust.But I'm a television executive/fatuous retard. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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cp442 |
7. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:44 PM EDT
"Yes. But is that based on day-to-day operations? How much extra juice will it take for the amazing feats the terminators perform?"True, I'm sure that was a maximum duration estimate; however, even with vigorous activity, I should think that no terminator ever lives long enough to worry about total fuel-cell depletion. Even if a given unit was to consistently use double the power necessary to perform basic functions, it would still presumably last for 50 years, which, again, no active terminator will live to see. Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:48 PM EDT
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@cp442 - I think that for bare combat endoskeleton such as a T800, the operational lifespan may not even be the full 120 years as stated in T2. Combat endos probably don't have a operational lifespan of more than 6 months at most, which would mean the the power cell or compact reactor installed in a combat unit most likely only has capacity for at most a year's worth of operation before replacement; there is a high chance the the unit will be destroyed before it ever depletes its energy reserves. Installing lower capacity compact reactors or fuel cells reduces production time and cost. I suspect only infiltration models of T800 would have a high-capacity power source installed.@ PyroDude - Response time on a linear electric motor is almost instantaneous upon the introduction of an electric current to the motor's coils. Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:50 PM EDT
"True, I'm sure that was a maximum duration estimate; however, even with vigorous activity, I should think that no terminator ever lives long enough to worry about total fuel-cell depletion. Even if a given unit was to consistently use double the power necessary to perform basic functions, it would still presumably last for 50 years, which, again, no active terminator will live to see. "Ah, good point. Makes one wonder why Skynet would even bother. Now, what if the inside of the terminator 'bones' were hallow and had some sort of a carbon nanorobe/muscle? We've seen those, what we can assume to be, wires or some sort of pressure/hydraluic lines running from the terminators, most prominently at the shoulders. Maybe they are coated in some sort of nanomaterial to keep them from tearing. Do you find this valuable? |
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10. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:51 PM EDT
"It is my professional opinion that terminators are fuelled by faith, trust, and pixie dust.Now that is just mean. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:51 PM EDT
"Response time on a linear electric motor is almost instantaneous upon the introduction of an electric current to the motor's coils."Okay. So we got one possible technology. Cool. Do you find this valuable? |
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12. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:56 PM EDT
You seem hooked on the word nano and keep going back to it, Forget it, they are robots . We have seen after they walk out of blast furnace temperature fires they do NOT rely on any organic muscles or tendons to function or for strength. They are more simple than not. Their fast growing skin is what made the T-800 a better infiltrator, and what makes them closer to human appearing.
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cp442 |
13. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:57 PM EDT
"I would assume that the anatomy of a terminator would resemble human anatomy quite closely, with power/sensory relays following the same routes as our blood/nerve supplies; there simply aren't many ways to position things if the body is to resemble a human convincingly. The funny thing is, by mimicking humans so closely, terminators also must share some of our weaknesses. For instance, their wrists and ankles must be quite weak and susceptible to damage; those joints are so inherently narrow and flimsy, there is no way to properly reinforce them for heavy combat. Do you find this valuable? |
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14. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 4:58 PM EDT
"Ah, good point. Makes one wonder why Skynet would even bother.The braided lines running from behind the breastplate of the T800 may be hydraulic lines, but they also could be sheathed electrical conduits. Do you find this valuable? |
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15. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 5:09 PM EDT
"You seem hooked on the word nano and keep going back to it, Forget it, they are robots . We have seen after they walk out of blast furnace temperature fires they do NOT rely on any organic muscles or tendons to function or for strength. They are more simple than not. Their fast growing skin is what made the T-800 a better infiltrator, and what makes them closer to human appearing."Cause nano is the premier word/theme/meme for making make believe sound pseudo-scientifically possible! Do you find this valuable? |
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16. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 5:11 PM EDT
"The pistons that most people assume to by hydraulic actuators might not actually be hydraulic actuators. They may be an extremely evolved form of electro-linear actuator; a linear electric motor."Could be. I never really thought of that. That would eliminate the need for a hydraulic pump, accumulator tank, hoses on each end of the ram etc. ----- On a separate note, I've always been kinda annoyed with the "hyperalloy" concept. That's just another term that James Cameron pulled out of his ass like "mimetic polyalloy". I mean... metal is only so strong. I think the strength of the coltan "hyperalloy" is a bit exaggerated. The ultimate tensile strength of even titanium alloy is only slightly higher than that of stainless steel. I would buy this imaginary "coltan hyperalloy" as being 3 or 4 times as strong as steel, but in the Terminator universe, they make it seem like it's 100x stronger. Do you find this valuable? |
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17. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 5:12 PM EDT
"Cause nano is the premier word/theme/meme for making make believe sound pseudo-scientifically possible!"ok maybe that technology is involved with rapid skin repair. T4 showed a graph that showed complete body growth 40 days. How does the face repair itself ? their has to be memories within the skin organ for it to regain exact shapes.... much like our DNA. Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 5:20 PM EDT
" I would buy this imaginary "coltan hyperalloy" as being 3 or 4 times as strong as steel, but in the Terminator universe, they make it seem like it's 100x stronger. "What I wonder is, how bullet-proof is the average Metal? In T4 they seemed to be using conventional weaponry against them, but by contrast, in T1, Arnold just gets hammered at point-blank range and doesn't drop. Do you find this valuable? |
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19. RE: The SCIENCE! behind Terminators
Jun 30 2009, 5:25 PM EDT
"Cause nano is the premier word/theme/meme for making make believe sound pseudo-scientifically possible!"You have to understand dude. Notty actually built a terminator. It is in his basement. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |