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T69
T69
Story lines for the show
Feb 28 2009, 11:34 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2009, 11:34 PM EST
Does anyone else think the writing for the show is a little weak? I love the show but am afraid it might get canceled if they don't pick up the action and story lines! 2  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Schmacky
Schmacky
1. RE: Story lines for the show
Feb 28 2009, 11:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2009, 11:44 PM EST
"Does anyone else think the writing for the show is a little weak? I love the show but am afraid it might get canceled if they don't pick up the action and story lines!"
No.

There are some seriously crazy ass stories going on here. And so many undertones. Maybe it needs more action. But then again, maybe they don't have the budget for all that action. Friedman said as much before.

I know I've said it before and I'm sure a lot of people think it's either a) an excuse or b) said too many times

BUT...

This show was promoted as the wrong type of genre than what the show really is. It's been portrayed in advertising as an action show when it's not. I think it was a BIG mistake that the word Terminator was thrown into the title. I really do. That word just SCREAMS "action" and this show isn't action. It's drama with action in it at times. Remember that the network is the one that added "Terminator" to the title, not the creators of the show.

So, they advertised to a bunch of action freaks when in reality the show is more drama. And what does that do? It makes those action freaks dissatisfied because they didn't get what they were promised. And that's understandable.

At the same time since they advertised it as action, they scared away people that are more into drama and probably would have given this show a chance and stuck with it if it was advertised as a drama.

It got screwed from the very beginning. It was mislabeled and now the writers, the actors, the crew, and the fans are paying the price for that. Do you find this valuable?    
LukeT-101
LukeT-101
2. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 5:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 5:58 PM EDT
Same here I don't think the writting is weak at all...its totally different to other shows. I can't see it being canceled not after the ratings they got from its pilot from season one...I mean I believe it was 18.3 million so alot lol its kicking more Ass than shows that started ok but are now simply shit like 'HEROES & LOST' Terminator I can see going on for another 3-4 season, fingers crossed. Do you find this valuable?    
kingsteve
kingsteve
3. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:11 PM EDT
I'd describe it as a sci-fi/drama. Hell, I'm an action junkie; I'm the kinda guy who likes to play Black Hawk Down at full volume. And I watched the show originally because I loved the movies. But even as an action junkie, I appreciate great storytelling and drama as well. And I prefer TSCC the way it is now than to have it as a pure action show, which would get old, fast.

I think they had to have the word "Terminator" in there to attract people, really. They should still keep the name but advertise it differently. Well, hopefully, if FOX keeps it, they'll learn from their mistake. And if not, then someone like SciFi would likely handle the show much better anyway. Do you find this valuable?    
T69
T69
4. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:44 PM EDT
but you guys can't tell me you are completely happy with the crazy Sarah episodes. If you say yes esp. since you like action then I would say you are Josh F, infiltrating......Just kidding! Do you find this valuable?    

dasad
5. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:45 PM EDT
"but you guys can't tell me you are completely happy with the crazy Sarah episodes. If you say yes esp. since you like action then I would say you are Josh F, infiltrating......Just kidding!"
Yep, I liked all 3-4 of the crazy Sarah episodes. Though I think it was the wrong time to do them. Do you find this valuable?    

dasad
6. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:46 PM EDT
"Same here I don't think the writting is weak at all...its totally different to other shows. I can't see it being canceled not after the ratings they got from its pilot from season one...I mean I believe it was 18.3 million so alot lol its kicking more Ass than shows that started ok but are now simply shit like 'HEROES & LOST' Terminator I can see going on for another 3-4 season, fingers crossed."
Why would they care about the ratings it used to get? It's not getting even moderately acceptable ratings right now. Do you find this valuable?    
LukeT-101
LukeT-101
7. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:50 PM EDT
What I meant was considering the pilot had the best viewings I don't think FOX will cancele the show cause of its weak writting Do you find this valuable?    

Taternater
8. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 6:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 6:55 PM EDT
"What I meant was considering the pilot had the best viewings I don't think FOX will cancele the show cause of its weak writting"
They would cancel the shot due to low ratings and loss of advertising dollars because of low ratings. Not because the writing was weak. Do you find this valuable?    
T69
T69
9. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 23 2009, 7:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2009, 7:37 PM EDT
I do agree with what some say about the show not being action, but being advertised as such. The real problem with that is sci-fi never gets taken seriously in that catagory. Special effects, action maybe but not usually for drama. There are too many other shows that draw advertising dollar. Keep in mind the baby-boomer generation is the largest and they make up a big segment of tv watchers. Advertisers want shows that they are watching. This is not one of them. I love it. I am just screaming now in hopes that there will be a season 3. I think if more people on here spoke up we wouldbe heard!
JOIN THE RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you find this valuable?    
LukeT-101
LukeT-101
10. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 3:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 3:32 AM EDT
OK I totally Agree with what your saying now, well I'm gonna whats needed to keep the show rolling for season 3...I'll spread the word bout this site to my mates over here I the UK to get more people to join us. Do you find this valuable?    
FrenchFanofTSCC
FrenchFanofTSCC
11. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 4:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 4:54 AM EDT
its all fault of FOX because the writers have to rudh up to write the end season after the decide to do the full season ! its not fault of producers or writers,its FOX mess up ! Do you find this valuable?    
T69
T69
12. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 7:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 7:12 AM EDT
"its all fault of FOX because the writers have to rudh up to write the end season after the decide to do the full season ! its not fault of producers or writers,its FOX mess up !"
That is a good point as well! Do you find this valuable?    
T69
T69
13. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 7:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 7:21 AM EDT
I guess for me really the problem was the crazy sarah stretch and the Friday night slot. The past few episodes were great! I am just worried it's too late. The question I have is ; do you think it would be harder on Sarah going through this or John. I mean John is a kid and he has been targeted from birth. Sarah is a Mom who's son could be killed at any moment by a machine. Tough on both sides but there is just so many possibilities for this show to expand on. Let's face it john could have some real issues growing up . Do you find this valuable?    
ChrisCoachKKincey
ChrisCoachKKincey
14. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 6:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 6:21 PM EDT
"No.

There are some seriously crazy ass stories going on here. And so many undertones. Maybe it needs more action. But then again, maybe they don't have the budget for all that action. Friedman said as much before.

I know I've said it before and I'm sure a lot of people think it's either a) an excuse or b) said too many times

BUT...

This show was promoted as the wrong type of genre than what the show really is. It's been portrayed in advertising as an action show when it's not. I think it was a BIG mistake that the word Terminator was thrown into the title. I really do. That word just SCREAMS "action" and this show isn't action. It's drama with action in it at times. Remember that the network is the one that added "Terminator" to the title, not the creators of the show.

So, they advertised to a bunch of action freaks when in reality the show is more drama. And what does that do? It makes those action freaks dissatisfied because they didn't get what they were promised. And that's understandable.

At the same time since they advertised it as action, they scared away people that are more into drama and probably would have given this show a chance and stuck with it if it was advertised as a drama.

It got screwed from the very beginning. It was mislabeled and now the writers, the actors, the crew, and the fans are paying the price for that."
Dear Scmacky,

I am happy to tell you the "big mystery" behind why the show is off its Terminator game has been revealed.

Go to the thread on the Wired article on Josh F. and see for yourself.

I won't spoil it for you, but it explains alot!

I for one, feel better knowing this, and think JF should have told us (much) earlier. In doing so, I think we would have rallied behind him and supported him in his efforts.

Not knowing this, we largerly come away felling WTF? even when we enjoy the show.

It'll all make sense. And I know you give a damn, which is why I'm sharing. Do you find this valuable?    
ChrisCoachKKincey
ChrisCoachKKincey
15. RE: Story lines for the show
Mar 24 2009, 6:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2009, 6:22 PM EDT
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2600020/Josh+Friedman+article+featured+in+Wired+Magazine Do you find this valuable?