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trigger_happy14 |
Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 24 2008, 10:40 PM EDT
Saw this article in front of Yahoo, saying a search for a certain rare metal used to make PS2s (along with other electronics) has caused a war in Africa!http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/playstation-2-component-incites-african-war/1231745 Weird coincidence huh? Maybe Cameron could sell her stashed bar for a small fortune! Do you find this valuable? |
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Krazykaleb |
1. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 24 2008, 10:44 PM EDT
"Saw this article in front of Yahoo, saying a search for a certain rare metal used to make PS2s (along with other electronics) has caused a war in Africa!Very sad. Can you find the date when this was posted so that people will know. Do you find this valuable? |
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trigger_happy14 |
2. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 24 2008, 10:51 PM EDT
I just saw the article on Yahoo today so it must have been recent. :/
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AverageJo |
3. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 11:00 AM EDT
Coltan is the ore (Columbite+Tantalum) from which Tantalum is extracted. Tantalum is the prefered metal for use in high-speed capacitors, a must-have for microelectronics. Its presence in the Congo (Zaire) has helped fuel civil war there. Not really sure why the T:SCC producers used that name - probably just liked the sound.Description of Coltan: http://www.economy-point.org/c/coltan.html Civil confilct in the Congo: http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/172835086.html Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 11:20 AM EDT
That stuff is real? I thought it was an over caffeinated Sci-fi writer figment of imagination.4 semesters of college chemistry and never heard of it. So much for an education. LOL Do you find this valuable? |
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aceplace57 |
5. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 11:26 AM EDT
ok, so this stuff is for electronics. So why did Cameron want it? She's certainly not going to manufactor a new chip. I got the impression it was to repair her endoskeleton. Were the writers full of crap after all?
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AverageJo |
6. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 11:48 AM EDT
"ok, so this stuff is for electronics. So why did Cameron want it? She's certainly not going to manufactor a new chip. I got the impression it was to repair her endoskeleton. Were the writers full of crap after all?"No idea. Probably just artistic license and all that :-) Do you find this valuable? |
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7. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 12:39 PM EDT
"ok, so this stuff is for electronics. So why did Cameron want it? She's certainly not going to manufactor a new chip. I got the impression it was to repair her endoskeleton. Were the writers full of crap after all?"Most people say she just wanted that coltan bar to get closer to her "origins" or to understand herself better. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Gusar |
8. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 12:49 PM EDT
"ok, so this stuff is for electronics. So why did Cameron want it? She's certainly not going to manufactor a new chip. I got the impression it was to repair her endoskeleton. Were the writers full of crap after all?"Cameron's and T-888 endoskeleton is make of coltan because it has a higher melting point than titanium - as explained by Cameron in Heavy Metal. Just because we use it in electronics, doesn't mean it's impossible to create metal skeletons from it. Or it's sci-fi technobabble. Do you find this valuable? |
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aceplace57 |
9. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 1:02 PM EDT
Ok, I don't mind giving writers room for creativity. Star Trek is famous for technobabble and it's a great series. I've read that it gives new actors fits because it's difficult to memorize. LOL
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FrenchFanofTSCC |
10. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 1:07 PM EDT
its not surprise me ! i know this metal is in Mobile phone and it melt when the phone is Hot and made radiations ! very bad,they must change to other metal in electronics !0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T-1976 |
11. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 25 2008, 7:07 PM EDT
I always thought it was COLTRAN, with an "R" Perhaps it is, and they put in an R to avoid confusion. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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12. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 26 2008, 12:11 AM EDT
We chose coltan specficially because of tantalum's high temperature properties. In real life, tantalum and noibium (another element refined from coltan) are used to strengthen high-tech compounds of titanium called intermetallics. They're the real life equivalent to the Terminator's "hyper-alloy." And yeah, coltan also sounded cool and has a fraught history of funding conflict and bloodshed.
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LaLongeCarabine |
13. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 26 2008, 12:28 AM EDT
"Coltan is the ore (Columbite+Tantalum) from which Tantalum is extracted. Tantalum is the prefered metal for use in high-speed capacitors, a must-have for microelectronics. Its presence in the Congo (Zaire) has helped fuel civil war there. Not really sure why the T:SCC producers used that name - probably just liked the sound.I've used Tantalum before in medical devices. It was silver soldered to at Stainless Steel Ring that had water passaged machined through it. A gold disk was electron beam welded to another SST ring and both halfs got welded together. It was the target in an Oncology Machine. It was explained to me that and high intensity electron beam is aimed at the target. The gold disk did something to the beam Iand it made the radiation that they zap tumors with. We used t was only .005" thick and it could stand the radiation and heat and on the other side it also contained the cooling water. If you could form it into to bar stock I bet it's properties would be amazing. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 26 2008, 6:43 PM EDT
An apparently good background article on coltan is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan.People chiefly extract tantalum and niobium from coltan. Tantalum, due to its heat resistance, is indeed used extensively in capacitors and electronics. Because tantalum has such low chemical reactivity at any temperature below 150 degrees Celsius, it's also very good in medical instruments. It is also used rather extensively in ARMOR, and certain tantalum allows are much stronger than steel. There are three good reasons why tantalum would make a good component in Terminator endoskeletons: 1. It is used for making armor alloys that are stronger than steel. 2. It is heat resistance. 3. It has good biological compatibility in medical implants. Now Terminators have flesh over the endoskeletons. Ordinarily blood and living tissue would cause corrosion of steel, but perhaps a tantalum-based endoskeleton would resist corrosion well. Also, a non-reactive metal would be unlikely to poison or harm biological tissue (hence the real-world use of tantalum in medical instruments and implants, Terminator science fiction aside!) Hence, tantalum sounds like a good choice for Terminators overall due to strength, heat resistance, and compatibility with the biological covering. I don't know whether the producers of the show realized all of these things when they brought up "coltan". However, I'm still surprised that the Terminators would want to collect a tantalum ore. It takes a fair amount of processing to convert an ore into a metal. Why not get the metal instead? Of course, this is a science fiction show and not reality... I am not aware (maybe I'm wrong) that you can form an ore into bar stock like that, but I'm also not a metallurgist. As far as I know only actual metal can be formed into bar stock. T-888 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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15. RE: Search for COLTAN ignites war in Africa!
Jul 28 2008, 3:19 AM EDT
"An apparently good background article on coltan is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan.wow didnt know about all that bio compatibility stuff (i HATE biology, too much memorizing) make sense i guess..... well we know they talked about a coltan shipment but what we saw might be a container?? any way the thing i found weird is that if those bars were coltan, they seems strong. i don't think you can beat 1 terminator with one of those bars of coltan (which i agree, should probably not even be moldable material, the impurities would prevent an even formation of a solid bar unless its been refined, in which case is no longer coltan) i need sleep... im typing jiberish here sry guys & girls :( Do you find this valuable? |