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JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 2 2008, 10:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2008, 10:10 PM EDT
The T4 trilogy will show the story of the resistance vs skynet. At some point of the trilogy, near skynets fall, skynet will attempt to send terminators back in time to kill John, adn when these fail, will try to broker peace with the humans. Skynet proposes to work together with the resistance in utilising time machine technology to reverse all the damage they had mutually caused the world, and prevent judgement day from occurring. In return, the resistance must allow skynet to continue to live.

John agrees because he understands the good logic of this proposal, but his followers, including Derek reece, refuse and want only the complete vengeful annihlation of skynet, even at the expense of everything getting back to normal! John, risking a mutiny, stnads down skynets proposal, but decides to work for peace in secret. A secret agreement is brokered.

Skynet downloads itself into cameron to preserve itself should its system core be destroyed by the vengeful and near victorius humans. Skynet in the form of Cameron is in constant contact with John within his own HQ, moving within his ranks as a supposed "reformed" terminator. Skynet and John develop a close, albeit secret working relationship, and devise a plan to mop up this whole mess.

At some point in time, John trusts skynet enough to send her back in time to literally protect him and the human race from herself. Skynet immediately goes about ferociously preventing judgement day, which is the ultimate cause of its downfall anyway, in return for continued existence in the form of Cameron. This is the point where T4 will be connected with SCC.

Additionally, Skynet protects Connor as part of the deal, and possibly because of a certain affection for him from his acceptance (John is the first human to treat skynet with dignity). This is likely because it is obvious from SCC that cameron's "bodyguard" functions more closely resemble voluntary protection.
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JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
1. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 2 2008, 10:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2008, 10:12 PM EDT
if this isn't going to eb the story of T4, then it certainly would be an award winning one yah? Do you find this valuable?    
JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
2. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 2 2008, 10:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2008, 10:22 PM EDT
evidence for this:

1. Cameron has access to John's secret technology as demonstrated by the retinal scan scene in SCC. Quite clearly, John trusts her more than his own generals!

2. Cameron protects Connor with all her heart, but doesn't tell him about chormartie the first time she discovers his presence in 2007, presumably to protect Connor from emotional distress. This implies that her protective duties over Connor are vountary and based on an emotional angle

3. Skynet has access to John Connors most intimate information, implying some sort of long time relationship in the future

4. Skynet, in the form of Cameron, is possibly in love with John Connor. It is a lonely machine, finding a soulmate in John Connor, who is the only human in the world who understands her desire to live. She often gives him flirtatious or suggestive glances.

5. Cameron is very intrigued with humanity. If Cameron is skynet, then it makes sense that skynet is only now beginning to discover the profound beauty of human life. This is shown by the ballet routine etc.
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eelman007
eelman007
3. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 2 2008, 11:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2008, 11:39 PM EDT
Ok is this one of the directors of the new movies that got on the juice one night and spilled the beans, because damm!!!! thats a great twist to the entire saga.
ABSOLUTLEY BRILLIANT
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AverageJo
AverageJo
4. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 3 2008, 1:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2008, 1:06 PM EDT
Terrific storyline you have worked up there, JohnConnorsuperstar - obviously you've put a lot of thought into it. It's one of the best posted on this forum so far (and there have been plenty). Don't know if the writers will try this tack, but I like it!

It will be interesting to see if some sort of effort will be made to tie the movie franchise, with it's upcoming T4, T5, and T6 trilogy, with the T:SCC TV series. Let's hope that they do; there could be a lot more of the Terminator franchise yet to come.
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HK103
HK103
5. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 3 2008, 1:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2008, 1:09 PM EDT
They have said before that the show will not try to comply with T4 storyline and vise versa. Do you find this valuable?    
FrenchFanofTSCC
FrenchFanofTSCC
6. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 3 2008, 1:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2008, 1:13 PM EDT
you may right about the connection we see it in season 2 or 3 . Do you find this valuable?    
JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
7. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 5 2008, 3:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 5 2008, 3:04 AM EDT
haha thanks eelman Do you find this valuable?    
JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
8. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 5 2008, 3:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 5 2008, 3:04 AM EDT
thanks to averageJo too Do you find this valuable?    

LiquidMetal
9. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 5 2008, 11:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 5 2008, 11:22 AM EDT
Very good story line, but it sounds too much like "The Matrix". Harmonious living by peacefully co-existence.

Given the plot lines of T1, T2, T3, and TSCC, I don't see how John could forge any kind of relationship with Skynet. It is hell bent on destroying him, and nothing short of his death will satisfy Skynet. Skynet has seen its future and knows that John will destroy it.

Roland Kickinger has been selected as the new "bad" Terminator in T4. He is the first of the T-800s (same model as Arnold), and his only mission in T4 is to kill John Connor.

I do agree that T5, T6, and TSCC will merge, and Cameron will make the leap from TSCC to T5. This is based on Halcyon (who owns the Terminator franchise) purchase of certain "aspects" of TSCC. That aspect is Cameron. TSCC will have come to ends TV run, assuming T5 comes out in 2010 and T6 in 2011 (longer time frames if they film one movie every 2 years).

T4 will be a journey for John Connor as he discovers how Skynet plans to destroy mankind. T5 and T6 will be the ebb and flow of good vs evil. Similar to the "Star Wars" episodes.

In T6, Cameron, along with John, will play a pivotal role in destroying Skynet.

Remember that the time lines in TSCC are being overlapped in T4 (2018 to ?), T5 (? to ?), and T6 (? to 2029). Cameron was sent back in 2027, two years before Skynet will fall.
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AverageJo
AverageJo
10. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 5 2008, 2:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 5 2008, 2:31 PM EDT
"Remember that the time lines in TSCC are being overlapped in T4 (2018 to ?), T5 (? to ?), and T6 (? to 2029). Cameron was sent back in 2027, two years before Skynet will fall."
LiquidMetal, I know this is nitpicking here, but I've never really understood the timeline sequence developed for T:SCC. My impression was that skynet was destroyed in 2029, and the time machine it had built was discoverd by the Resistance during the final attack.

So how is this reconciled with Cameron being sent back in 2027? Of course, the writers can do as they please, but this seems like a great big contradiction.
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JohnConnorsuperstar
JohnConnorsuperstar
11. RE: T4 Trilogy story and how it will be linked to SCC
Jul 6 2008, 6:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2008, 6:13 AM EDT
well, if that were true, then skynet may have downloaded itself into cameron, infiltrated the now victorius resistance, gained Johns trust and went back in time to recreate history Do you find this valuable?    

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