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jasonosborne79 |
1. RE: Great episode
Feb 11 2008, 10:08 PM EST
What a great way to bring Charley in. Boy oh boy, there's going to be some hell to pay.I think we also found our perp. No letters on the door though. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
2. RE: Great episode
Feb 11 2008, 10:23 PM EST
Oh, and "Grief Counseling" my backside. That guy was gathering information, and bit off more than he could chew. Whose light blue Ford 500/Ford Taurus was that? Who was driving? Is the guy who called in Cameron investigating the suicide or the perp himself?
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3. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 7:39 AM EST
"Oh, and "Grief Counseling" my backside. That guy was gathering information, and bit off more than he could chew. Whose light blue Ford 500/Ford Taurus was that? Who was driving? Is the guy who called in Cameron investigating the suicide or the perp himself?"I wish there was more of the FBI agent. What an interesting character. By the way...No way is that guy who plays John Connor is 15 or 16 years old. I have a 16 year old..That actor looks 22 easy.......bad choice. I'm not alone thinking this either. I have not read one good fan review about that actor playing John Connor. I am so tired of hearing him whine. And please lets not have 5 of the shows producers and the casting person respond to this as if they are regular fans.. 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
4. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 8:53 AM EST
I didn't say I didn't enjoy Agent Ellison--we're starting to see the tip of the ice berg in regard to his character and I can't wait to see where it leads. Now as for the actor who plays Connor, so he looks older; big deal. So he whines--there are people who whine. I guess I'm trying to justify everything, but the fact is I don't notice these nitpicks. I'm more interested in how the characters are developing and how the plot and various subplots are progressing and I like what I've seen so far. The subplot about the murals and the suicide (and clearly there's still a case of abuse going on) at school is as important to Cameron's development as working against Skynet. What was she writing when the episode was nearly over? 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Pyus |
5. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 9:32 AM EST
"This looks like it will be geat epi!"more then likely a letter to the dead 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
6. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 9:35 AM EST
"more then likely a letter to the dead"Why is that? 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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fujii_itsuki |
7. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 10:55 AM EST
"Oh, and "Grief Counseling" my backside. That guy was gathering information, and bit off more than he could chew. Whose light blue Ford 500/Ford Taurus was that? Who was driving? Is the guy who called in Cameron investigating the suicide or the perp himself?"The guidance counselor was certainly not being too helpful with the "grief counseling" part eh? Cameron's line was classic, "You ask that question a lot. Is there anything else you would like to tell me?". Heheh, a homage to the chatting AIs? If I'm not mistaken, I've gotten that line before while playing with one of those things. But this guy was the one having affair with the girl who committed suicide. The graffiti on the wall was gonna spell out "Guidance Counselor" eventually I think. He's probably trying to find out if suicide girl told anyone. Cameron is definitely on his radar now. Still dunno who's the graffiti perp tho. About Thomas Dekker, he's 19. Almost 20. And yeah, probably a little too old to be acting as a 15 year old but I think he's doing a great job as John Connor. The series is suppose to see him growing into the future John Connor. A hero. So can't help that he's a little whiny now. He'll grow. Hopefully we'll have enough episodes/seasons to see to that. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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firefox7 |
8. RE: Great episode, Perhaps the best Episode Yet to Air!
Feb 12 2008, 11:44 AM EST
What did you all think about Episode 5? I thought it was really Good! The most flawless episode yet. Cameron took out the other Terminator rather easily I have to admit. What did they do with the Terminator's body? FBI Agent found the torn off arm from the Terminator, with Flesh upon it. Cameron is becoming more and more "aware" of herself, in a sort of "human" way IMO. Did she hold onto the core she took from the fallen Terminator? What does she plan to do with it and the Metal Bar used to create Terminators? Does she want to reproduce (by using these materials?) On another note: John was actually rather concerned about Cameron when the Prison Terminator held the "upper hand" (pun included). 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Aaron_Smith |
9. RE: Great episode, Perhaps the best Episode Yet to Air!
Feb 12 2008, 12:33 PM EST
Excellent episode, only minor nitpicks. One and mainly: the whole visiting/breaking out Uncle Reese was very messy. Did Sarah have to show identification or sign in in order to see Derek? If so, there goes their cover. Was she caught on any surveillance video? Is Ellison really not going to check and see if he had any visitors? Did Sarah really have to go see him, wasn't knowing he was sent by John enough to warrant breaking him out?Why couldn't Cameron have simply torn the back door of the transport off, grabbed Derek, tossed him in the Jeep, and drove off before anyone was the wiser?At the very least, Sarah's fingerprints are all over the truck, and her face, in any reasonable world, would be decorating every Post Office in the state. Do the FBI have a picture of John? If so, he'd have to leave school. Plenty of people could describe the jeep that was used as getaway. Will Sarah bother to get rid of the car? I know they're going to address the fate of the T-888, but that is another point to add to this. I guess it shows that perhaps the thing that will lead the humans to ultimate victory is their very impulsive irrationality. Heavy Metal already showed this tendency in John, and it would make sense, but be a little bit more careful, guys! I'm liking the idea that Ellison might destroy all the evidence regarding her case in the future. He's bound to catch up to her at this rate, and as long as he's the first one to find her (which is likely at this point) he can help them keep their cover. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
10. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 12:36 PM EST
" He's probably trying to find out if suicide girl told anyone. Cameron is definitely on his radar now.I'll pity him if he lays a hand on Cameron; because he's probably not going to have much of one left. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Pyus |
11. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 2:09 PM EST
"I'll pity him if he lays a hand on Cameron; because he's probably not going to have much of one left."He is going to do one of two things to Cameron, either try to indimidate her so she stays quiet about what she might know (thought of it makes me laugh someone intimidating cameron) or he is going to try the same thing with her because then he will have power over her. I think Cameron would see both of these as a threat to them staying underground and a threat to the mission, i dont see things ending well for him at all. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
12. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 3:09 PM EST
"He is going to do one of two things to Cameron, either try to indimidate her so she stays quiet about what she might know (thought of it makes me laugh someone intimidating cameron) or he is going to try the same thing with her because then he will have power over her. I think Cameron would see both of these as a threat to them staying underground and a threat to the mission, i dont see things ending well for him at all."Exactly. I'll pity him, but considering what he has done, I'm being way too kind. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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BobbyBobson |
13. RE: Great episode, Perhaps the best Episode Yet to Air!
Feb 12 2008, 4:05 PM EST
"Excellent episode, only minor nitpicks. One and mainly: the whole visiting/breaking out Uncle Reese was very messy. Did Sarah have to show identification or sign in in order to see Derek? If so, there goes their cover. Was she caught on any surveillance video? Is Ellison really not going to check and see if he had any visitors? Did Sarah really have to go see him, wasn't knowing he was sent by John enough to warrant breaking him out?Why couldn't Cameron have simply torn the back door of the transport off, grabbed Derek, tossed him in the Jeep, and drove off before anyone was the wiser?She steals an ID scanning card from a passing guard. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Junecleage |
14. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 4:51 PM EST
"What was she writing when the episode was nearly over?"Made me wonder if she were writing a letter to the "dead" T-888, Derek Reese...or possibly both, since Derek's from the future, and she assumes that because of his injuries he's done for. Sarah's there trying to save Derek Reese, who's dying: she's doing her humans saving/grieving humans thing. Carmeron is doing the same for the Cyborg. I got this distinct feeling she was sorta sad/curious when she removed the chip. Almost as if that's all it takes to end a cyborg life. She said earlier in the episode that she read all of the letters to the dead girl. She heard John tell her that people write letters sometimes when crying isn't enough. And Cameron doesn't cry, so how could it be enough? I wonder what kind of letter Cameron would write to the dead? 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Aaron_Smith |
15. RE: Great episode, Perhaps the best Episode Yet to Air!
Feb 12 2008, 5:13 PM EST
"She steals an ID scanning card from a passing guard."So sneaky, even the audience didn't notice. O.O Go Sarah! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
16. RE: Great episode, Perhaps the best Episode Yet to Air!
Feb 12 2008, 5:38 PM EST
I noticed her swiping the badge.Honestly, how many people expect a wanted fugitive, who has been presumed dead for eight years, to suddenly show up at the county jail? 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
17. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 5:40 PM EST
"Made me wonder if she were writing a letter to the "dead" T-888, Derek Reese...or possibly both, since Derek's from the future, and she assumes that because of his injuries he's done for. Sarah's there trying to save Derek Reese, who's dying: she's doing her humans saving/grieving humans thing. Carmeron is doing the same for the Cyborg. I got this distinct feeling she was sorta sad/curious when she removed the chip. Almost as if that's all it takes to end a cyborg life. She said earlier in the episode that she read all of the letters to the dead girl. She heard John tell her that people write letters sometimes when crying isn't enough. And Cameron doesn't cry, so how could it be enough?Actually, I think she was writing a note to Jordan, the girl who jumped. I think she means more to Cameron than a killing machine or a human who is going to live. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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shiftyo's |
18. RE: Great episode
Feb 12 2008, 6:39 PM EST
Maybe Cameron is going to become fully self aware and make her own choices, skynet did so why couldn't she? Cameron has already done some shady things keep that coltan bar take that cpu chip from the T-888 and now writing some note. I also cant wait tell they bring all these puzzle pieces together in the show.I dont mind this john but i still liked the original john better. Where is this john's cocky, self assured, badass attitude instead he's soft as pudding and whiny. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
19. RE: Great episode
Feb 13 2008, 1:05 AM EST
Yeah, don't like this John at all. He has no charisma and Kyle did say whisftully he'd die for John like he's a messiah or something. Give him some spunk. Give him more quality time with Cameron like he did with Arnie to guide her to her understanding of humanity. That way perhaps the sparks (ha ha) will fly later on! =) The tin "man" who finds her heart after all. Do you find this valuable? |