"I'm working on the final chapter to Reunion part 2. As it is kind of long, even after moving some content to the previous chapter, I'm going to divide it in two, but only for the purposes of making it easier to read on fanfiction.net. This will also let me fix some of the timing and pacing of the story as I bring balance to the first and second part.

The Chapter is titled, The Price of Victory. Part 1 will be subtitled, The Price is Set, and Part 2 will be subtitled, The Price is Paid.

What is the price of victory? The cost is paid, in bullets, sweat, blood, the very lives of those closest to us. Victory has its price, but it is better than defeat.

I don't know what dividing it will mean for the page for Reunion on this wiki. We'll see when the time comes for posting. If i can't make it work, then one chapter instead of two.
"

Never mind. I just did a word count and compared it to chapters already uploaded to ff.net, It's right on par. It just seems long due to the number of pages.

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"now ot
1. I rewatched them again last year, and it is better even the ones like sarah centrics.
however earthlings # 2x13 and good wound # 2x14 were still pretty bad.
I still think S-1 was way better than S-2

2. and I still dont like the last show !
If we had got a S-3 it might be ok, but with no S-3 or a S-3 movie it sucks.
S-2 overall, was sloppy, and at times really good, and other times really bad.

3. I think the 3 dot thing sort of shows what S-2 was like, it was drawn out and sort of thought up and changed as they went along, instead of a solid plan that was followed thru to the end.
I think josh constantly changed direction and other things as they went along.

4. the insertion of the sarah eps is a example of this, he just dropped them in , which interrupted the other storyline, and alpine fields was just a standalone ep. once that was over, the show got better again and there was some flow again, but for me the last ep was probably the 3rd worst ep of the series.

5. rather than watch that, I would rather just pretend #2x21 is the last ep, with sarah in jail,and john and cam together.
S-2 didnt flow from one ep to the next like S-1 did."

1. While I agree that some episodes could be a bit boring, I think that S2 is much better than S1, mainly because in S1 the show hadn't reached its form yet. JF was unexperienced, and it'd have bee hard to take Terminator and directly transform it in what the show is: time was required.

2. I figure you mean the last episode: well, isn't somehow BtR than still bends us here?
You're right, it's sad without S3, but that's only a (long) temporary sadness (don't try to contradict me here, if you want to live ;-p). BtR's end was a good way to prepare S3, and it was for sure the realization of one of the (very few) points I understood watching the "whiteboard interview": John's emancipation. As for this, it's perfect: John is years away from Sarah, he's alone and now he's an adult (again, I could say, since T2's John was much more emancipated than TSCC's one).

3. You could be interested in reading this other thread where (by reply 57) we were discussing the three dots.
JF changed directions in the parts that weren't "THE" show, but the events constructing the real show (which, IMO, is mainly about characters... mainly about non-human characters, I could say, considering JH and Weaver!)

4. Fox wanted more stand-alone eps hoping to acquire new viewers in a show that could have never been understood and appreciated by someone who had tried to "jump in"... and I always think that 22eps were too many for a season and JF ran out of ideas since the events on the whiteboard were enough for less eps (say, 18). The result is that they had to dilute the story.

5. de gustibus non est disputandum... but what is really TSCC?
Is it a story about some events, secret companies, spies and war? If it is, it failed.
Is it a story about some characters changing, studying each other and adapting to the events I just named? If so (as I think and saw it) it's a great show!

6. Well, more than remembering you again about Fox's influences, and that last 9 were changed in a way we can only imagine, I can only add that the ones that used to "flow" in S1 were only a "contour" to the show...

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"I thought this project had died with the cease and desist order, but apparently the sale of Terminator rights from Pacificor to Megan Ellison has brought about a change.
Hanover House has resumed work on the project. The first article I read was here:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/arnold-schwarzenegger-may-voice-animated-terminator-3000-feature-film

This article explains things better: http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/1897.html

It explains Annapurna
Productions is owned by Megan Ellison. The only article that said that outright. However it appears the project is still in
the proposal stage.

I don't think we can complain if the movie is a CGI film voiced by actors, not after films like Avatar. I think it comes down to the quality of the production and the story that is told.
If there is progress on this front, then I'd like to see a video short showing the kind of animation they have proposed and an outline or summary of the story they want to do.
"

Megan is the one that takes risks and produces some movies that are rejected by bigger companies...right?
If so... we might be in for a treat, as she has a good eye for well done stuff( written and acted)

If the movie is done like ...lets say Beowulf or Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within .... I would go see it !!

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"how about bonnie morgan she played rosie the pretzel

i thoguht rosie and cam were the same model they were the same size and build and walked the same into the building

so bonnie was pikced to be a different body on the same endo already"

Yes, I agree that Rosie and Cameron could be the same model of endo (I don't think Skynet has too many models of small endos, one or two, at most)... but reusing an actor for a different role is even worst than replacing an actor for a role (IMO)... and you are suggesting to do both things simultaneously ;-P
More, Bonnie Morgan isn't actually an actress, I don't know if she could be able to get into a so hard role as Cameron is.

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So cute !!!!!!!!!!!

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"Wow. A Sarah Connor board that doesn't have douchebags bashing people for bringing up a TSCC season 3 topic. I might like this place. "

It seems that you have a sixth sense for this kind of threads...
As I told you, no one bashes you if you're not the first to get too excited in a way that could appear offensive to someone... this being said, welcome back: I've never seen you on the red wiki before

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Like others, I haven't read enough fan fiction to comment on whether there actually is such a trend, but if there is, my guess is that it has nothing to do with the portrayal by either actress. Rather I would think that it had to do with the relative ages of the writers.

Fans who were introduced to the franchise by TSCC tend to be younger, and I think younger and less experienced writers are more likely to include content that they find sensational. I also have known fans that hated the character, and could envision that they would write her into ugly conditions as a sort of punishment for being perceived as an antagonist on the show.

As for Sarah having ever been a prostitute, I don't think a post Pescadero Sarah would be squeamish about doing such a thing for the cause, yet I can't ever see her becoming a common streetwalker. I would be more likely to accept that she had been a high class escort or become a partner to someone in power in order to gain advantage.

As for T2's John claiming she would 'shack up' with anyone she could learn from, he was bitter and angry at her for most of his young life. I have no problem with Sarah actually being attracted to military types and dangerous men in general (after all, they may remind her of Kyle, and become her type) but John would have a dim view of such a thing.

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"http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-hrp-4c-female-robot-video.html"

Still very mechanical. Hasn't yet entered uncanny valley territory. Not for me at least.

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"Dean Winters, who played Charley Dixon, is now the "Mayhem" character in Allstate's new series of commercials, "Mayhem Is Coming."

Dean wears a black suit with white shirt and black tie, and he has unshaven stubble and disheveled hair. He precipitates various accidents with an evil smile and says, "mayhem is coming."

He is so into character that I didn't recognize him until I had seen a half dozen of these commercials. lol

[edit add] Here's a few short samples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGtFbFMOkpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZo3GQvlhbw&feature=related"

Thanks here's some more links to more sources of Dean Winter's Mayhem commercials:

http://archive.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2011/03/leo-burnetts-allstate-mayhem-ads-win-at-addy-awards.html

http://www.facebook.com/pages/AllState-Mayhem-Commercials/114943185250186

The Racoon moved in.. (first hand experience with this one already, again he is so funny , llol..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzUR_mq6OY

Unfortunately I couldn't find a direct link to the interactive flash ad I saw last night with the 9 talking heads. He delivered his lines with a nice dry whit and the muigging and grimacing was right on, not to mention that he often was arguing with different versions himself. So funny, LOL.

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